166: Untangling Codependency in Marriage
Podcast Guest: Wendy Wang
February 2nd, 2026
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In this Episode
In this episode of Stronger Marriage Connection, Wendy Wang, Director of Research at the Institute for Family Studies, joins Dave Schramm and Liz Hale to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping dating, marriage, and emotional connection. Drawing on new national research, Wendy explains why some young adults see AI companionship as a substitute for real relationships, how technology and phone use are affecting marital satisfaction, and what couples can do to protect intimacy in a digital world. The conversation highlights risks, boundaries, and practical strategies for strengthening real human connection in an age of rapid technological change.
“The opinions, findings, conclusions, and recommendations expressed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the Utah Marriage Commission.”
Time Markers
00:03 – Introducing AI and relationships
01:25 – Why AI matters for marriage
03:12 – AI partners replacing romance
06:33 – Risks of AI companionship
09:50 – Online dating and isolation
11:35 – Creating tech-free boundaries
12:57 – Education and marriage divide
15:23 – AI and delayed marriage
18:19 – Phones and marital satisfaction
20:26 – First steps to reconnect
23:18 – Where AI crosses the line
27:04 – Emotional risks of AI bonds
29:45 – Key to stronger marriages
31:40 – Takeaway: protect real connection
Insights
Wendy's
The rapid growth of technology creates constant distractions, making it essential to refocus on real relationships—especially marriage—as the foundation of strong families and a healthy society.
Liz’s
The importance of wise, honest friendships—friends who offer both support and truth—something AI can’t replace.
Dave's
The rapid rise of technology and the need for intentionality—setting boundaries, being present, and choosing real connection over mindless tech distraction.
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